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Help I've fallen and I cant get up.

Postby Darth Hoodie » Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:02 pm

Hey everyone, I have done something drastic and ill-advised, I am going to do a full hobby restart. As of yesterday %80 of my Black Templar Collection has been sold to finance a new hobby endeavor I am downsizing the scope and scale of my "collection" to instead focus on a force that will allow me a greater deal of hobby flexibility and play two different game systems.

With the Templars gone I am starting up a Crusade force of Sons of Horus, it is my intent to build an army that is playable in both games of 30k and 8th Edition 40k as a CSM Black Legion army. The only caveat is that everything I purchase must be usable in both game systems. I am going to be building this army from the ground up as all new models and hope to document my progress here. I am aware that crunch wise I will not have the most competitively viable force on the tabletop but after reading more and more of the Heresy novels I have fallen in love with the setting, the lore and the characters. This is going to be a passion project that is going to test my skills as a hobbyist and hone my painting abilities.

The extent of my army to date.

Horus Lupercal "The Warmaster"
Ezekiel Abbadon
Gavriel Loken
Maloghurst the Twisted
Cataphracchi Sorcerer
Cataphracchi Praetor
Artificer Armor Praetor
Artificer Armor Chaplain

Company Standard Bearer
Terminator Primus Medicae

30 Tactical Marines
20 Havocs/Heavy Support Marines

10 Justerain Terminators
10 Cataphracchi Terminators Chainfist Storm Bolter
2 Contemptor Dreadnoughts w/Everything

2 Sicarans
2 Quad Launchers
1 Land Raider

3 Rhinos
1 Drop Pod
"We are the anvil," Horus repeated, pointing with his sword... "Now behold the hammer."
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Re: Help I've fallen and I cant get up.

Postby Sandtiger » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:46 pm

Seeing as you're doing this you should absolutely read Talon of Horus and Black Legion for your next two books. They tie directly into the faction of the Black Legion and its origins
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Re: Help I've fallen and I cant get up.

Postby Memento » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:10 am

Sandtiger wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:46 pm
Seeing as you're doing this you should absolutely read Talon of Horus and Black Legion for your next two books. They tie directly into the faction of the Black Legion and its origins
Second this recommendation, if you're looking to take your Sons into 41st millennium. As a former BTemplars player, Black Legion will give you complicated feelings...
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Re: Help I've fallen and I cant get up.

Postby Sandtiger » Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:59 pm

Amen to the complicated feelings about Black Legion, but as I have mentioned to you before in discussion about this book, Sigismund is an unforgettable presence in it and remains a complete badass even in his advanced age. I won't say anything more about it, but you will definitely enjoy both sides of the story in it.
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Re: Help I've fallen and I cant get up.

Postby Darth Hoodie » Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:10 pm

I'm currently reading Talon of Horus and it does a great job of actually "Humanizing" the Traitor Legions after the heresy. A lot of the CSM lore I had previously seen was always skewed in a "Big Bad" kind of light from the loyalist perspective.

Just as a little hobby update. I spent the last few days trimming bits from sprues and cleaning up mold lines for my infantry.
My first order of business for me is to build up my Troops once those are done I am going to tackle the projects that require pin work and magnets. Dreadnoughts and Justerain Anyone?
"We are the anvil," Horus repeated, pointing with his sword... "Now behold the hammer."
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Re: Help I've fallen and I cant get up.

Postby Sandtiger » Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:44 pm

Well of course. For the Imperium, they ARE one of the big bads. It wouldn't make any sense for the Thousand Sons to be portrayed as anything else in books about, say, the Space Wolves... They've been worst enemies for 10,000 years for the most part and even after Njal's little adventure with one inside his head in Ashes of Prospero the vast majority of them probably want to just kill Space Wolves on sight.
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Re: Help I've fallen and I cant get up.

Postby Darth Hoodie » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:10 pm

If I understand the 40k CSM codex correctly I have also decided to include a group of "Fallen" in my Black Legion version of this army. Those 30k Dark Angels models are WAY TOO COOL to pass up on. As I currently understand the rules I could include Cypher in a bog standard Black Legion army without loosing the Black Legion (keyword) the fallen would not gain Black Legion but would maintain their own (Fallen) keyword. A plasma squad would be cool to throw in. Just like a special weapon squad from the Heresy.
"We are the anvil," Horus repeated, pointing with his sword... "Now behold the hammer."