The Rejects

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The Rejects

Postby Indy » Tue May 29, 2018 5:10 pm

Benchwarmers


Blood Angels 2500pts
Brigades +12CP
15CP Total

HQ:
Captain Tycho

Librarian in Terminator Armor
--Force Axe
--Storm shield (per Index equipment)

Techmarine on bike
--Power Axe
--Servo-harness
--Storm bolter

TROOPS:
Scouts x 5
--Heavy bolter
--Sgt. bolter + chainsword

Scouts x 5
--Shotguns x 4
--Sgt shotgun + chainsword

Scouts
x 5
--Sniper rifles x 4
--Sgt sniper rifle + chainsword

Tactical Marines x 5
--Grav cannon + grav amp
--Sgt. Combi-grav + chainsword

Tactical Marines x 5
--Grav cannon + grav amp
--Sgt. Combi-grav + chainsword

Tactical Marines x 5
--Grav cannon + grav amp
--Sgt. Combi-grav + chainsword

ELITES:
Company Champion
--jump pack

Terminator Ancient
--Storm bolter

Terminators x 5
--Assault cannon x 1

Terminators x 5
--Assault cannon x 1

FAST ATTACK:
Attack bike x 1
--Heavy bolter

Attack bike x 1
--Heavy bolter

Land Speeder
--Heavy bolter

HEAVY SUPPORT:
Baal Predator
--Twin Assault cannon
--Heavy bolter sponsons
--Storm bolter

Devastators x 5
--Heavy flamer x 4 (BA can take Heavy flamers on Tacticals, Sternguard, and Devastators)
--Sgt. Combi-flamer

Land Raider
--Multi-melta

Vindicator
--Storm bolter


This is me trying to get all the units that hardly ever see the light of day any more into one list. I doubt it's going to win, but I think it would actually be kinda fun to play.
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Re: The Rejects

Postby The Last Acton Hero » Tue May 29, 2018 5:25 pm

I like it. I think the Grav-cannon tacticals would work well for most chapters (since you don't have built in re-rolls to make your plasma "safer"). I also think BA jump company-champ could do work (nice discount beat-stick). Tactical terminators are still pretty tough to recommend (though +1 to wound powerfists is fun).
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Re: The Rejects

Postby Indy » Tue May 29, 2018 7:23 pm

The Last Acton Hero wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 5:25 pm
I like it. I think the Grav-cannon tacticals would work well for most chapters (since you don't have built in re-rolls to make your plasma "safer"). I also think BA jump company-champ could do work (nice discount beat-stick). Tactical terminators are still pretty tough to recommend (though +1 to wound powerfists is fun).

Some people apparently swear by grav (still) in 8th. <shrug>

I think if played right, Termies can have localized superiority.

Question is: which is worse, the Vindicator or the Baal Pred?
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Re: The Rejects

Postby The Last Acton Hero » Wed May 30, 2018 8:21 am

Indy wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 7:23 pm
Question is: which is worse, the Vindicator or the Baal Pred?
Both? As a dakka-box the Baal predator is overshadowed by so many better options. The vindicator also really got screwed over in the transition to 8th. Str 10 really isn't that big a deal anymore, and d3 shots at 24 inches is hard to like.
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Re: The Rejects

Postby Indy » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:17 pm

Ok, this is a slightly more serious (it's still shooty-Terminator heavy...) version of the idea above.


T is for "Terminators" because they terminate the Emperor's foes with extreme predjudice


Blood Angels 2500pts 13CP

Battalion +5CP

HQ:
Captain in Cataphractii Terminator Armor
-Combi-bolter
-Thunder hammer

Librarian Dreadnought
-storm bolter

TROOPS:
Tactical Marines x 5
-Melta gun
-Sgt Combi-melta + chainsword

Tactical Marines x 5
-Melta gun
-Sgt Combi-melta + chainsword

Tactical Marines x 5
-Sgt Stormbolter + chainsword

FLYER:
Stormraven
-Twin lascannon
-Typhoon missile launcher

DEDICATED TRANSPORT:
Razorback
-Twin Assault Cannon

Razorback
-Twin Assault Cannon

Razorback
-Twin Assault Cannon

Battalion +5CP

HQ:
Librarian in Terminator Armor
-Force axe
-Storm shield*

Librarian in Terminator Armor
-Force axe
-Storm shield*

TROOPS:
Scouts x 5
-Bolt pistol + combat blade x 4
-Sgt Boltgun + chainsword

Scouts x 5
-Bolt pistol + combat blade x 4
-Sgt Boltgun + chainsword

Scouts x 5
-Boltgun x 3
-Heavy bolter x 1
-Sgt Boltgun + chainsword

ELITES:
Terminator Ancient
-Stormbolter

Terminator x 5
-Assault cannon x 1
-Teleport Beacon

Terminator x 5
-Assault cannon x 1
-Teleport Beacon

Assault Terminator x 5
-Thunder hammer + Storm shield x 5


*Index: Imperium 1 allows Libbies in Termie armor to take Storm shields



I think the above is a sneakily potent force. There's actually quite a bit of S4 dakka going on that weight of fire should be able to deal with the usual bane of elite units: hordes. And with even dakka Terminators packing power fists, this list should be able to do serious work against even heavier foes.

...but it would really suck to face vehicle-heavy Tau/Eldar lists that can simply fly away and shoot some more. The classic problem of relying on footslogging melee units for AT.


EDIT: formatting
“Fairy tales do not give the child his first idea of bogey. What fairy tales give the child is his first clear idea of the possible defeat of bogey. The baby has known the dragon intimately ever since he had an imagination. What the fairy tale provides for him is a St. George to kill the dragon.”

-G.K. Chesteron